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I have used this brand in water color pencils for years, and love them. So, I was shocked at how BAD the fine line black pens are. Not a good rich black. More like a cheap Sharpie, with a red cast to it. The tips are not very good either. You don't get a good even flow. Gave these to my husband to use in his wood shop.
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I had initially purchased the Sakura Microns per advice I was given by card makers whom claim it works great to fill in missing lines from rubber stamps and would be waterproof. Unfortunately, the Microns did not live up to its waterproof claim. These Prismacolors claim to be "water-resistant" and held up much better. There was minute bit of bleeding, but nowhere near the amount the "waterproof" Microns. I am very happy with this product.
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